According to well-informed U.S. intelligence sources, Alternative 3 is a
plan to colonize the planet Mars with a cross-section of persons from all
major areas of human knowledge and culture. This project has been ongoing
and under development for many years. The public discussion of a manned
mission to Mars distracts from claims of well-placed sources that we have
already HAD manned Missions to Mars.

A moon base dubbed Luna was sighted and filmed on the far side of the moon
by the Apollo Astronauts. A mining operation using Very Large
Machines has also been sighted there. Luna is a joint United States,
Russian and Alien base.

A craft code-named Aurora allegedly exists at Area 51 (Dreamland) in
Nevada which makes regular trips into space. It is a onestage TAV (trans-
atmospheric vehicle) which can take off from the ground using a 7 mile
long runwy, go into high orbit and return on its own power, landing on
the same runway. Atomic-powered alie craft are flown at Area S-4 in
Nevada. Our pilots have made interplanetary voyages in these craft and
have already been to the Moon, Mars and other planets.

With the government's advance knowledge of what's actually on Mars, it's no
wonder that NASA and other agencies are slow to discuss the "face" and
other structures seen on Mars.

Is the foregoing all true? I don't know, I wasn't there. But the people
who DO know are now speaking up -- because what you are reading is most
likely just the "tip of the iceberg" of what is really going on with our
Manned Missions-and our presence in space.

What follows is a direct transcript used with permission, of an
interview I conducted with John Lear, author of Lear.txt in the files
section. Hopefully, this interview will answer some of your questions
as well as some of mine.

Brad Langton 02-Feb-88 appox. 1:30AM to 3:30AM

<LANGTON> Ok, we're "live" so to speak... you just mentioned that
there were 70 other species in contact with this world... of which 4
others were overt...are they aware of the EBE's?

<LEAR> Yes they are. The types I will mention are listed in a USAF
Academy Physics book called Introductory Space Science Volume 2. I
refer to Chapter 13 about page 8 which lists the ones that are most
seen. They are the EBE's the "blondes". (also called the Nordics).
They look just like us but are invariably blonde haired and blue eyed.
Don't know where they come from but they do not interact with us
except for a few abductions now and then.

<LEAR> We also have a species that is similar to us in appearance but
they are about 7 ft tall and the main difference is that their eyes
wrap around the head a little more than ours. Another type listed is
a small species about 4 ft. tall, very hairy and extremely strong for
their size. We don't know where these guys come from either. All
this was in the aforementioned text which was withdrawn by the Air
Force in the early 70's from the book. But from and that is Zeta Reticuli
1 & 2, a binary star system visible only from the southern hemisphere,
spectral class of G 2 and 38 light years from here. It is possible
that they use some form of the Einstein Rosen Bridge theory (wormholes
in space) to get here. We knowall this from the work that Marjorie
Fish did in the in the early 70's. There is a good article about it
in Astronomy Magazine Dec 1974. There was also a reprint of this
article in 1976 which had all the comments and rebuttals and rebuttals
to rebuttals by Carl Sagan, Bob Schaefer etc etc.

<LANGTON> I remember reading about the characterizations of ET's that
you have described about 25 years ago. I also recall a book by a
George Adamski or Adamson... not sure which, regarding these golden
haired aliens. In the Interrupted Journey, I believe it was Betty
Hill that under hypnosis revealed many of the invasive techniques used
on abductees. Also, Perhaps it was in the article on the Zeti
Reticuli Incident that a woman under hypnosis reconstructed a 3D model
of the Zeta Star system with the relative positions of the other stars
as they would have appeared as established by computer modeling. I
guess one of the primary questions is, if there are other forms
visiting and/or interacting with huans, are they completely
insensitive to these "arrangements" put out by the EBE's with the

<LEAR> This may be hard to swallow but its my information from
government sources that the blondes adhere to a universal law of non-
interference and even though the EBE's are not doing us any favors
that they, the Blondes will not do anything about it unless the EBE's
do something that will affect another part of the universe. Back to
Adamski. He has been labeled as a fraud however like all things
nothing is all black or all white. Some of his stuff was true. But
its hard to separate which stuff. He claimed that the Blondes came
from Venus or Mar which is highly, highly unlikely. As far as the
map it was drawn by Betty Hill under hypnosis in 2 D. It ws Majorie
Fish that did the interpretation to bring it into 3 D.

<LANGTON> I was uncertain about who exactly was the originator of the
map, so I gather tha the map must necessarily be a matter of
speculation regarding its veracity as well. I'm curious also as to
the government's plans, if any, to deal with an uprising of EBEs
should that eventuality occur... or would the technological gap make
such an attempt untenable.

<LEAR> It's my understanding that we have already lost the battle.
This is the reason why MJ-12 is in such a panic. They had a lot of
well laid plans to inform us etc. etc. and when the deception was
confirmed about 1984 it was all out the window. Back to Betty Hill
for a minute...under hypnosis she recalled being gven a pregnancy
test...a needle was inserted in her stomach. She recalls saying that
this was no pregnancy test here on earth (1962)

<LEAR> Amniocentesis was developed around 1972-1973 and uses the exact
same procedures. In 1986 a British doctor had given an amniocentesis
to a woman and was looking at the fluid under a microscope. He saw a
tiny speck and started enlarging it. When he got it big enough to see
what he found was what looked like computer chip attached to one of
the chromosomes. This doctor and 6 others wrote an open letter in
Nature Magazine, one of Britains' most respected scientific journals,
along with a picture of the chip,and asked any doctor or scientist
anywhere that could held explain what they were seeing. If you do not
have a copy of this page, I can send it to you.

<LANGTON> That would be helpful. Also the Vol, issue, date etc.
Recently in the INF treaty negotiations, Gorbachev indicated that
despite prior claims, they too were working on an SDI program... Is
there any connection between our program and theirs and if the battle
is lost, why are these attempts being de?

<LEAR> I wish I knew the answer to that. Several rumors have come out
of the test site recently and one of them was that every test shot
this year has been to make a giant room. The shots are very clean and
as soon as everything subsides they move in equipment to make walls,
ceiling, floors and various levels.

<LANGTON> Several critics have highlighted the apparent discrepancies
between our medical technology and that of the EBEs asto synthesizing
plasma material. Also, technological gaps between our cultures
suggest that solicitaion of indigenous humans for their undertakings
seems akin to asking help from chmpanzees... my analogy... what about
these concerns?
What follows is a direct transcript used with permission, of an
interview I conducted with John Lear, author of Lear.txt in the files
section. Hopefully, this interview will answer some of your questions
as well as some of mine.
Brad Langton 02-Feb-88 approx. 1:30AM to 3:30AM
<LEAR> All of these questions are valid and show a lot of thought.
All I know is what I wrote. Its very hard to speculate the reasons
why or why not a species almost a billion years older than us would do
anything. This is not a cop-out...I just don't know and don't want to
<LANGTON> Given that material that you have access to is ambiguous on
some of these issue and that there may be a hidden agenda on the part
of the EBEs regarding the purposes for their being here is it not
also possible that, assuming there is a "truth" here, which I'm sure
you understand, must reain unsubstantiated in the absence of hard
data, that the government may also, unknown to you or perhaps others
"in the know," a failsafe mechanism to undermine this whole EBE
project if the need should arise?
<LEAR> Its my understanding from those 'in the know;' (and as late as
one week ago) that the situation is 'ominous'.
<LANGTON> Please understand my pauses... have to consider the next
<LEAR> Ok, meantime looking for the date and issue of Nature.
<LANGTON> I recall now, one of my users requested information on the
"Roswell Incident" and if it were in any way tied to any of this?
<LEAR> Yes, the Roswell crash was the first recovered flying saucer
crash in the U.S. Bill Moore located 90 material witnesses to the
crash. It was near Corona, N.M. and a few months ago I interviewed
Mrs. Procter near whose ranch this thing crashed. 4 bodies were
recovered. There is one person still alive at this moment who helped
Mac Brazel drag some of the wreckage to the shed. He and Brazel were
approached at that time by (I know its hard to believe but the guy is
going to come forward soon) an alien who told them both to keep their
mouths shut. He is the last guy alive that was directly connected
with that retrieval.
<LANGTON> Are you saying that the others involved were murdered?
<LEAR> No. No. They have just passed away. That was a long time
ago. The last guy to die was Maj. Jesse Mcel, The intelligence
officer at Roswell who went out and helped pick up the wreckage.
Before he died a few years ago he went public with his account which
was that the crash was not a balloon or a radar reflector or an
airplane. He didn't state what it was, but said it was not of this
earth. I have a transcript of the cassette tape of his memories of
picking up the wreckage, its only a page long if you would like me to
send that.
<LANTON> OfG course, any information you have will be helpful... What
of yourself, why are you coming forward now, particularly placing te
hspotlight on yourself... aren't you concerned that there may be some
sort of repercussions from the government regarding the stir this is
and will continue to cause?
<LEAR> Hopefully the spotlight will be on the information and not on
myself. No there is not too much worry because, well let me say that
5 years ago I wouldn't have gotten away with this but things are so
screwed up now that one voice talking to...what 50? 100? people
can't make any possible difference. Also if something was going to
happen it would have happened a few weeks ago. I wrote Dr. Lew Allen,
Director of JPL and MJ-12 member that I was going to do a story on his
participation in MJ-12 particularly because JPL employed 8000 people
in the Southern California ara. I als enclosed a copy of my
hypothesis and told him it was on ParaNet and CompuServe. Dr. Allen
has a reputation of responding to all mail in a very prompt manner.
But me? I didn't hear anything. Not even a "John Lear you must be
crazy." He wrote a letter to Max Fiebleman of Los Angeles on the 18th
of December. Max had sent him a copy of the Hudson Valley video and
asked Dr. Allen to look at it. Dr. Allen responded that he had taken
a quick glance but did not have the tim for anything more and on the
basis of what he saw determined that it was a blimp. He also wished
Max a Merry Christmas. Now......this is one of the worlds greatest
scientists? Not interested in that Hudson Valley video tape?
Gimme a break.
<LANGTON> There are certainly a lot of inconsistencis seemingly from
everywhere on this issue. As you know, Jim Speiser and ParaNet are
often published in some form, usually a quote from Jim, in the major
UFOlogy magazines... I would suspect that this matter will be reaching
a lot more people than just those of us here in the BBS community.
What of the future...can we expect more information, hard or soft
evidence that willhelp align the apparent inconsistencies or at best,
give a more cohesive picture of some of the answers to questions that
your original release has raised?
<LEAR> I would be very surprised if some kind of statement from the
government is not forthcoming within the year, more probably within 6
months possibly much sooner... That's about all I can speculate from
the information I am getting.
<LANGTON> Well, you can be assured that we will be continuing to watch
these developments should they occur. Last year there was a similar
promise of major information by year's end... you got in just under
the wire but the other information was not this information, at least
not necessarily as coming from you. Time is running short for me here
and I want to thank you for incurring the phone bill for this
interview but I think it is important that we try to get as many
answers on this as possible. Do you have any closing statements that
you would like to make at this time?
<LEAR> Just to thank you for your time and I will be sending you the
aforementioned documents etc.
<LANGTON> Thank you very much John, your paticipation will no doubt
add a level of credibility to your desire to spare little expense in
heling usp find the truth about all this.
<LEAR> Thanks again, and talk to you later.

Rick Dell'aquill is a ParaNet member from Seven Hills, Ohio and
State Section Direor for the Mutual UFO Network in Cuyahoga County.
He is a practicing attorney and has contributed articles to the MUFON
UFO Journal. Again, his views as presented here does not necessarily
reflect those of ParaNet
In a recent series of uploads provided to Freenet by Dale Wedge
and Jim Speiser of Paranet, a December 29, 1987 statement by John Lear
was quoted. Mr. Lear is a reputable and apparently highly qualified
airline pilot with impressive credentials. Every so often one finds
something in UFOlogy which is simply staggering in its implications
but valueless without supporting evidence and therefore, "hard to
swallow." Although he should be admired for his courage in presenting
this information (obtained from various "sources") without hard
objective evidence, Mr. Lear's statement can only be regrded as
interesting reading without evidentiary support. In short, he sets a
nice table but leaves us waiting for dinner.
Were it not for his credentials and ParaNet's assurance of his
"numerous contacts in sensitive positions," the otherwise outlandish
claims he makes could be dismissed as entertaining fiction. However,
Mr. Lear's character and reputation require that greater consideration
be given to his statement. >>
In summary, Mr. Lear contends that our government has for over 40
years been concealing from the public a "horible truth" concerning an
"invasion" of Earth by EBEs (Extraterrestrial Biological Entities).
He alleges that the U.S. government has conducted "business with
little gray extraterrestrials for about 20 years," i.e. we were "sold"
by MJ-12 to the aliens in exchange for technology and to preserve our
democracy. He contends that our government agreed to ignore
human/cattle abductions and mutilations, but that the deeply sinister
purposes of these activities were not completely understood by MJ-12
until about 1984.
Without explaining the EBE's reason(s) to do business with the
most powerful nation on Earth when they could covertly continue their
activities in the Third World without concern, or why these advanced
and powerful aliens would even want or require our "agreement" to
continue their activities, Mr. Lear maintains that the purposes of the
abductions are:
(1) The insertion of a 3mm spherical device through the nasal cavity
of the abductee into the brain. The device is used for the biological
monitoring, tracking, and control of the abductee.
(2) Implementation of Posthypnotic Suggestion to carry out a specific
activity during a specific time period, the actuation of which will
occur within the next 2 to 5 years.
(3) Termination of some people so that they could function as living
sources for biological material and substances. (Why not cadavers?)
(4) Termination of individuals who present a threat to the
continuation of their ativity.
(5) Effect genetic engineering experiments.
(6) Impregnation of human females and early termintion of
pregnancies to secure the crossbreed infant.
He cites the history of UFOlogy in the 40's and 50's, contending
that several crashed saucers and at least 3 live aliens have been
captured and hidden by the government. But would such a powerful
adversary permit humans to hold, study and possibly copy crashed
saucers or permit us to keep captured aliens, or would they simply
take them back? >>
The EBEs are said to suffer from an atrophied digestive system
whichrequires that they sustain themselves by absorbing through the
skin a solution made from certain enzyme/hormonal secretions derived
from cattle and humans and collected by houlish cattle and human
mutilations. The various body parts said to be obtained in this
manner ar then supposed to be taken for processing to various hidden
laboratories jointly maintained by the aliens and CIA in the
Southwestern U.S. Although this description of the alien's atrophied
digestive tract agrees with alleged autopsies of dead aliens (reported
by Stringfield, et al). It is difficult to accept that in at least
2000 years of genetic engineering on cattle and humans, the aliens
have not collected enough material to maintain their own "livestock"
and feed hemselves without CIA cooperation.
Mr. Lear maintains that a 20 year plan for release of UFO
information to the public (including the history and intentions of the
EBE's) to be completed by 1987-88, was terminated when the "horrible
truth" became apparent. Indeed, during the first year of the Carter
Administration, various media sources, including Walter Cronkite on
the "CBS Evening News" and " U.S. News ad World Report," reported
that before the end of that year the administration was to release UFO
information of a "startling" nature. The information was never
released. He contends that "Star Wars" is in reality a defensive
respose to tnhe EBEs, not Soviet nucler missiles, but does not
explain why the EBEs permit us to continue with SDI studies that pose
a threat to them.
Among the many manipulations of human history said to be
perpetrated by the aliens, they maintain that Jesus was their creation
and that his crucifixion has been recorded in an alien holographic
videotape. Thereare also said to be other recordings by humans,
including an interview of an alien which is translated by an Air Force
Colonel and other tapes said to be held by UFO investigator William
Moore. It is difficult to understand why such a superior race,
capable of manipulating human civilization for a minimum of 2000
years, would wait to subjugate the planet for that same period. At
the time of Christ, our most advanced missile system was the
"slingshot." We are now capable of nuclear "suicide."Insane as hat
would be, their food supply would go up with us.
Further evidence should be interesting and will be anxiously
Copright@1988 National Fringe Sciences Information Servise All Rights
conditions were not good, so the nets have been canceled on those two
band for now. If anyone has any info about the 10 or 20 meters nets please
let me know, or info on any other UFO nets please let know. I have been
ask what kind of nets are they, well all I can say is check them out for
your self and find out. I for one listen to them like clock work.


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